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Help us expand our Muslim media project here: https://www.thinkingmuslim.com/membership Donate to our charity partner Baitulmaal here: http://btml.us/thinkingmuslim In this episode of The Thinking Muslim, we are joined by Ismail Arafa for a wide-ranging and thought-provoking conversation on religion, power, and global politics. Together, we explore the complex relationship between faith and statecraft, beginning with discussion of crusader undertones in modern U.S. policy and what this reveals about the role of religious language in shaping political agendas. The discussion then broadens to examine both right- and left-wing trends in the West, questioning whether hostility toward Islam is rooted in belief - or driven by strategy, power, and economic interests. As the conversation deepens, Ismail Arafa reflects on how religion continues to be instrumentalised in an increasingly secular Western world, and why it remains such a potent force despite declining religious affiliation. We also unpack the important distinction between mainstream Christianity and its more extreme expressions, while critically engaging with historical narratives like the Crusades and their relevance to modern conflicts. The episode also tackles the dehumanisation of Palestinians and Muslims in Western discourse, alongside a candid discussion on how Muslims view non-Muslims. Is the idea of an inevitable conflict between believers and non-believers real - or constructed? Finally, we address the rise of right-wing and authoritarian movements across the West, and what this means for Muslim communities navigating an increasingly polarised landscape. Join us for this nuanced and challenging conversation that encourages deeper reflection on the narratives shaping our world today. And do comment your thoughts down below! You can find Ismail Arafa here: X: https://x.com/ismailarafa9 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ismail.arafa2 Become a member here: https://www.thinkingmuslim.com/membership Or give your one-off donation here: https://www.thinkingmuslim.com/donate Listen to the audio version of the podcast: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7vXiAjVFnhNI3T9Gkw636a Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-thinking-muslim/id1471798762 Purchase our Thinking Muslim mug: https://www.thinkingmuslim.com/merch Find us on: X: https://x.com/thinking_muslim LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-thinking-muslim/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/The-Thinking-Muslim-Podcast-105790781361490 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingmuslimpodcast/ Telegram: https://t.me/thinkingmuslim BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thinkingmuslim.bsky.social Threads: https://www.threads.com/@thinkingmuslimpodcast Find Muhammad Jalal here: X: https://twitter.com/jalalayn Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jalalayns/ Sign up to Muhammad Jalal's newsletter: https://jalalayn.substack.com Website Archive: https://www.thinkingmuslim.com Disclaimer: The views expressed in this video are those of the individual speaker(s) and do not represent the views of the host, producers, platform, or any affiliated organisation. This content is provided for lawful, informational, and analytical purposes only, and should not be taken as professional advice. Viewer discretion is advised. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 01:51 - Pete Hegseth: Discussing alleged “Christian crusader” undertones in U.S. policy 11:21 –-Evangelical influence on U.S. policy (right and left) and shared hostility toward Islam 17:52 - Is hostility toward Islam driven by politics, power, and financial interests? 24:46 - How religion is instrumentalised in an increasingly secular West 33:09 - Distinguishing mainstream Christianity from extremist interpretations 40:10 - Examining claimed links between the Crusades and modern-day violence 47:00 - Western narratives: Dehumanisation of Palestinians and Muslims, and Muslim perspectives on non-Muslims 51:01 - The idea of perpetual conflict between believers and non-believers 56:40 - The rise of right-wing and fascist movements in the West: how should Muslims respond? -
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